Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 05:42:04 EST
From: Ustanova Iboga <iboga@guest.arnes.si>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ibogaine@ibogaine.org>
Subject: Re: FWD indra analysis
Hi Eric,
I'm sure that you'll be satisfied with attached Certificate of Analysis of
the Sacrament Substance, which Sacrament of Transition uses for initiation
(the file is in Word for Windows 7.0 format).
Marko
At 01:41 1. 1. 2000 EST, you wrote:
>Hi Marko,
> Trust is a wonderful commodity. I don't have any ibogaine to test and
I'm not
>in the
>business of providing analytical data. I want people to realize that from my
>perspective
>getting the proper analysis is important. There is quite a variation in the way
>people
>respond to this treatment. It's definitely a sellers market so any
analysis method
>should be
>spelled out.
>Eric
>Pet your dog instead:
>http://home.earthlink.net/~ejlmp/Maggie.html
>
>Ustanova Iboga wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I don't know what technique was used, but I trust the lab. They have great
>> experience with Iboga alkaloids. If you're a practicing research chemist in
>> organic chemistry, and you're not satisfied with results - why don't you
>> analyse it yourself?
>>
>> Marko
>>
>> At 21:42 30. 12. 1999 EST, you wrote:
>> >It would be nice to know what technique was used in gathering these
>> results. As
>> >
>> >a practicing research chemist in organic chemistry, I am not satisfied
with the
>> >results.
>> >Eric
>> >Pet your dog instead:
>> >http://home.earthlink.net/~ejlmp/Maggie.html
>> >
>> >HSL123@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> List,
>> >>
>> >> Marko had tried to send analysis information on the indra product but,
states
>> >> there are problems with U.S. servers during this time of year and
asked me to
>> >> provide the analysis he received. This will be found below. One
comment I
>> >> will make is that is provides the content of ibogaine base but, I am
>> >> uncertain if it has taken into account other iboga alkaloids which might
>> >> double the percentage.
>> >>
>> >> Howard
>> >> *****************************************************************
>> >> ORIGINAL MESSAGE
>> >>
>> >> Indra has sent me several samples of his product, which I forwarded to
a lab
>> >> which has a lot of practice determining Ibogaine. Here are results
(from the
>> >> same lab):
>> >>
>> >> Iboga Extract from Indra #1: Ibogaine base 8,52%
>> >> Iboga Extract from Indra #2: Ibogaine base 7,86%
>> >>
>> >> You can notice that content of Ibogaine base is different for 2 samples
>> >> which were taken from "the same pot". If this samples were taken from the
>> >> top of the pot, the question appears: how much Ibogaine base contain
samples
>> >> from the middle of the pot, or from the bottom?
>> >>
>> >> My opinion is that Indra's Extract can be compared to roots or
rootbark; you
>> >> never know how much of Ibogaine you get in them.
>> >>
>> >> I have another Indra's sample which I'll eat in January, to compare it's
>> >> effect to Ibogaine HCl.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone has comments on these lab results? (By the way, I'm expecting
>> >> more results from another lab)
>> >>
>> >> Marko
>> >> *****************************************************************
>> >>
>> >> Yes, check for total alkaloids. To INDRA, the HCl is far more stable than
>> >> the base.
>> >> Also, I think that the ibogaine content is between 2 and 3 times the
potency
>> >> of root bark depending on the particular product.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
analysis.doc in Word 7.0 for Windows format
Certificate of Analysis in HTML format (This was inserted into the original message)